Sarah Gilmore turns Guest in this episode, where she and David French speak with Angeline Aow about the meaning and value of making, creating and the maker movement in schools today. Why are making and creating valuable, and how is the face of STEM, STEAM and making changing?

Sarah Gilmore is a teacher and consultant as well as the co-founder of Intechgrate and is based in Berlin, Germany. David French teaches and leads workshops and is based in New Zealand.

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